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Stephi_Girl

PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 1:39 pm


Well, obviously since the Sherlock Holmes books are classics, they're referenced a lot in all kinds of books, movies and more. So I decided to start a thread where you can post things that you've read or seen and exclaimed "OMG SHERLOCK HOLMES!!!!!!!!" Not that I've ever shouted that loudly in front of a lot of people. Not at all.

Here are two from books I like to start it off:

In the book Kiki Strike: Inside the Shadow City (a bit of a kids' book, but I reccommend it) there's a part where the title character is trying to convince people to join a group she's starting called The Irregulars. Their first meeting is on a street called Bank Street, and the title of the chapter is "The Bank Street Irregulars". I believe Holmes is also mentioned in passing somewhere later in the book. So I quite appreciated that.

Last night, I finished reading the book Morning, Noon and Night by Sidney Sheldon (which I also reccommend, it's fantastic) and there's a part where someone is thought to be impersonating someone else, but the man trying to solve the mystery guesses that she really is that person because of the fact that she can't prove it. He says something like "The dog didn't bark. In the Sherlock Holmes story. The clue was in what didn't happen."

Now I know everyone else has noticed references like that, so post away!
PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 6:43 pm


There's a rather vague reference in Watership Down, a novel by Richard Adams. I'm not quite sure if it's for Holmes, Raffles, or perhaps a mixture of the two.
This is the book about rabbits travelling to establish a new colony on the downs, if you haven't heard of it. The rabbits have a folk hero they call El-Ahrairah--"The Prince with a Thousand Enemies". He has a companion named Rabscuttle, who is described in one tale as being small enough to pass as a child rabbit...in other words, he's a bunny...and the companion of Raffles is called "Bunny" Manders. xd So the Raffles connection is pretty certain, especially considering stealing lettuces from gardens is one of El-Ahrairah's talents. But sometimes in these tales when you listen to conversations between El-Ahrairah & Rabscuttle, it sounds like pure Holmes & Watson...and in the folk tale "Rowsby Woof and the Fairy Wogdog" El-Ahrairah tricks a very foolish sheepdog guarding lettuces into thinking he is a fairy wogdog come to grant Rowsby Woof wishes for being so good. At one point, in order to escape a predicament, he tells the sheepdog that there is an evil spirit come to cause them trouble...and he describes it as "the great rat spirit, the giant of Sumatra, the curse of Hamelin".
Link to a part of the story online. Note the trick at the bottom of this page--this is late in the tale.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 10:05 pm


Ooh! I totally freaked out in the theatre while watching League of Extraordinary Gentlemen... I'm afraid of posting a spoiler, though...

Totally rocked that M was Moriarty. Totally anti-canon, but still rocked.
PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 6:08 pm


The movie version is barf. Go read the original comic series--both of them. Holmes himself is mentioned in one of them.

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Stephi_Girl

PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 1:38 pm


I'm reading a book now called "The Travelling Vampire Show". One of the characters in it loves reading, and she always goes by the names of literary characters. Holmes is mentioned as being something she called herself once, and "The Sign of the Four" is later listed among her favorite books. That made me smile.
PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 2:58 pm


My absolute favourite was something my pastor said once. He was talking about how the Catholic Church doesn't just want an emotional response to religion, how you have to really think about it logically if you want to have real faith, because blind faith is just stupidity.

So he was going on and on about how God is Love, but He's smart, too, and all of a sudden he busts out with:

"So God is like Sherlock Holmes, only without the hat, and we'll say that the universe is like a huge metropolis with its own criminal underworld, and Satan is like Moriarty, organising all of the crooks and criminals. So Sherlock and Moriarty are locked in this eternal battle of brains, and obviously Sherlock is going to win, because Sherlock invented brains, but Moriarty reverse-engineered the brain and made his own model that's really twisted and warped..."

And so he continued for approximately a half hour, until everyone was completely and totally lost. There were a whole lot of blank stares...

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 6:47 pm


lol

What about Laurie King's book The Art of Detection? That's actually in her other non-Holmes series but apparently has the manuscript for a lost Holmes story in it. Has anyone read that one? It's just come out recently in paperback, and I was wondering whether to buy it.
PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 11:20 am


O_o I can honestly say I have never heard anything like that one...

*needs to get a copy of The Art of Detection* I've heard nothing but good things about it.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 11:02 pm


Shuromai
My absolute favourite was something my pastor said once. He was talking about how the Catholic Church doesn't just want an emotional response to religion, how you have to really think about it logically if you want to have real faith, because blind faith is just stupidity.

So he was going on and on about how God is Love, but He's smart, too, and all of a sudden he busts out with:

"So God is like Sherlock Holmes, only without the hat, and we'll say that the universe is like a huge metropolis with its own criminal underworld, and Satan is like Moriarty, organising all of the crooks and criminals. So Sherlock and Moriarty are locked in this eternal battle of brains, and obviously Sherlock is going to win, because Sherlock invented brains, but Moriarty reverse-engineered the brain and made his own model that's really twisted and warped..."

And so he continued for approximately a half hour, until everyone was completely and totally lost. There were a whole lot of blank stares...


I want to go to your church XDDDD
PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 4:01 pm


I have a copy of, and read, "The Art of Detection".

The Disney Movie "The Great Mouse Detective" wasn't just a reference to Holmes, but were based on the books of Basil of Baker Street by Eve Tidus. (Update, 1/2/10 - recently acquired another Basil of Baker Street book, Basil in Mexico).

Also, there is a movie starring Don Knots and Tim Conway called "The Private Eyes", which is a parody loosely based on Holmes.

At the very end of the movie "Murder By Death", Holmes and Watson are on their way to 22 Twain, when all the other detectives are heading the opposite direction (there were a couple lines exchanged, but I don't remember them, as I only saw that scene once along time ago, and the video I have of that movie doesn't have that scene).

There's a movie by Mel Brooks called "Sherlock Holmes' Smarter Brother", starring Gene Wilder.


Of course, there's the movie "Young Sherlock Holmes" - that's one of my favorites, also have and read the book.

I have an old coffee mug with a picture of Holmes on it, saying, "Elementary, my dear, my old partner in crime". Also have a button I got from Hot Topic, with Holmes neck-deep in the ocean, and his deerstalker cap is over his eyes, looks like he jumped overboard from a boat. The caption on top of this scene says, "No ship, Sherlock".

There's a book by Esther Freisner called "Druid's Blood", which has main characters based on Holmes and Watson.

Updating 1/2/10: I just read an article in the Smithsonian Magazine, Jan. 2010 issue, called Sherlock Holmes' London by Joshua Hammer, pgs. 56 - 65. It blends in a history of Holmes stories along with little bits of Doyle's history. There is mention of a new book by Lyndsay Faye called Dust and Shadow, which would be a novel about Holmes vs. Jack the Ripper.

A few years ago I came across a couple of dvd's of a series called The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes, which stars an actor by the name of Ronald Howard (not the same guy from Happy Days) as Holmes. There were 39 episodes in this series, filmed in France in 1954-1955.


I remember seeing an episode of Danger Mouse where, in the beginning scene, DM's headquarters was having rocks thrown at it, and DM and Penfold were saying that it was Watson throwing the rocks. The mail box headquarters was in front of 221 Baker St.

I recently saw an episode of Animaniacs (on dvd) called Deduces Wild, where the Warner Brothers (and the Warner Sister) are taking part of a scavenger hunt. They end up at 221B Baker St., bug the heck out of Holmes and Watson, and help foil the plans of Holmes' nemesis, Mariachi ... who turns out to be a guy dressed in a kilt, wearing a large sombrero, and riding a winged bicycle. In the end, it turns out that Watson is what was needed for the Warners to complete the scavenger hunt, which prize included something that had to do with Baywatch.

Update 2/3/10: Before the second part of Doctor Who: The End of Time, BBC America had a David Tennant special running. The actor who played The Master stated that The Doctor and the Master were like Sherlock Holmes and Moriarty.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 8:38 am


(This is in addition to my above post)

The other day I acquired a book called "Bernard of Scotland Yard", a children's book written in 1979 by Berniece Freschet, illustrated by Gina Freschet. It's about a mouse named Bernard who lives with a big mouse family in Boston, Mass. An aunt from London visits them and mentions that her son Foster is a detective for Scotland Yard, and is working on a diamond smuggling case. Bernard makes himself a hot air balloon and flies himself to London and meets up with his cousin. One of the first things Foster does is make Bernard a "temporary inspector" and outfits him as one ... the illustration shows Bernard being outfitted in an Inverness and deerstalker cap.

Not only does this bare the reference to Holmes, but to me it bares the reference to Basil of Baker St. as well.
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