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Lady Baroque

PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 7:18 am


Mr. Holmes was an avid user of these substances which according to the books, were legal in his time. Was Sherlock the type of person who would use them after they became illegal (Cocaine anyway) or do you think he would quit?

My thoughts: The Holmes from the early stories seemed to place great value on the "law". Because of this I think he would not use them. However the Sherlock from say, The Sussex Vampire (Did I spell that right?) was less enamored by it and would probably not quit.
PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 9:56 am


Hm. I think that Holmes would have been one to follow the law where it did not hinder his personal interpretation of 'justice'. He repeatedly allowed felons to escape, when he sympathised with thier motives.

Otherwise, I doubt he would break the law just to continue his substance abuse, since it never seemed that he was addicted. (I say that because withdrawal was never mentioned, though I don't think he was ever without tobacco long enough for withdrawal to manifest.)

At any rate, tobacco is stil legal, as is morphine, when used in a medical context.

Planck`s_Constant
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 8:26 am


Well, I'm not sure if it is a sign of withdrawal, but I was reading the Dying Detective a few nights ago, and in it somewhere is something that might or might not be relevant.

I can't give you a direct quote at the moment, I am away from my home where my books are, but it is torwards the end when Holmes reveals himself.

He says something along the lines that he had not touched food nor drink for three days, but that it was the tobacco that really bothered him.

You can all look it up for yourselves, or I can post the quote later tomarrow morning when I am home.

EDIT : Here's the section I was mentioning.

The Dying Detective

"The best way of succesfully acting a part is to be it," said Holmes. "I give you my word that for three days I have tasted neither food nor drink until you were good enough to pour me out that glass of water. But it is the tobacco I find most irksome. Ah, here are some cigarettes."
PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 4:57 pm


Yeah, I remember that. He got Milverton to give him a cigarette while playing sick, and then later admits he'd missed tobacco more than anything else.
I fully believe tobacco is addictive and I'm sure Holmes was addicted to nicotine. Whether he was one of those who could quit fairly easily, would have to work hard at quitting, or was incapable of quitting I don't know. I'm inclined to think the latter--not because of lack of willpower, but because I don't think he'd bother applying his willpower to the task. You have to REALLY REAALLY want to quit to succeed and stay off tobacco, and he likes his smokes too much.

Eirwyn
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 6:15 pm


On the tobacco issue, also bear in mind that the harmful effects were unknown at the time (Smoking was actually promoted as being beneficial to the health and a good way to clean out the lungs...), and that even had the truth been known, Holmes never cared much for his health anyway. The harmful effects of morphine and cocaine were well known, but he didn't let that stop him.
PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 9:51 pm


Personally, I believe that our dear Mr. Holmes is for the law when he is younger, but the longer he works with it the more he comes to realize... I believe... yes one moment... *rummages* Ah here we are... *pulls up a volume.* In the Return of Sherlock Holmes, in Part two of the Abbey Grange He states; "No, I couldnt do it Watson. Once that warrent was made out nothing on earth would save him. Once or twice in my career I feel that I have done more real harm in my discovery of the criminal than ever he had done by his crime"

From this, I deduce that our Mr. Holme's would have, if it were made illegal in his younger life, quit the morphine and cocaine, but not the cigarettes, and I don’t thing you'd ever see him smoking one of those hideous little electric ones. Though, when he was older, and moved across the fence of the law, instead of being on one side or the other of it, he would have still continued the use of the dangerous drugs, because as we know, he would have absolutely hated the in-action of the elder life, for he states often that he hates in-action of any kind, which is why he uses his cocaine in the first place.


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