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 Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 2:59 pm
Has anyone else noticed that Watson is always portrayed as a real doofus? He wouldn't have been, though, because he was a doctor, and medicine is a form of deduction in and of itself. That just really irritates me, and it's one of the reasons I love the Granada series so much, because neither Hardwicke or Burke plays Watson as an idiot.
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Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 6:52 pm
Yeah, I know what you mean. Although I still like the original one the best (Basil Rathbone), that Watson is a little...stupid. Okay, that word didn't work out so well. I'll say this instead:
If there's a bucket and a mop in the room, the Basil Rathbone-version Watson will always be the one to step in it and make a fool of himself. Period.
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Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 7:26 pm
Mop buckets, rakes, protruding pipes... Of course we've got to take the era into account. They were recovering from war then, and slapstick was a good way to forget about Nazis and air raids.
But seriously, what happened to the tough-guy Afghanistan veteran who was handier with a service pistol than Holmes himself? Comic relief is a good thing, but not when you sacrifice accuracy to achieve it.
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Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 8:16 pm
Yeah, I think everyone had noticed that. It's a real shame, isn't it? I mean, bashing Holmes's biographer just isn't good form, is it?
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Holmes of Baker Street Crew
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Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 6:14 am
I know. He wasn't a genius, but he wasn't any moron either.
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Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 8:32 am
Yeah, Nigel Bruce was a really lovable sort of Watson, but sadly made to be a doofus. Would've been interesting to see how he would have done as a more intelligent Watson.
Robert Duval didn't do too badly in "Seven-Per-Cent Solution", but they did have that dumb line where he ponders if Ms. Devaraux was wearing a long-stemmed lily in her hair (& Holmes gives him a look, so it was deliberately a "doofus" line!)
David Burke was pretty good, but not quite there. I remember one time Holmes tells him to "stop those horses!" (a carriage with out-of-control running horses is coming at them) & he runs up & DOES it. rolleyes I thought to myself, "Well, DUH, Holmes! Are you so darn feeble? Do it yourself!" xp
Hardwicke is definately the best & most intelligent Watson I have seen.
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Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 2:43 pm
I can't remember if it was Hardwicke or Burke in 'The Devil's Foot', but I'm pretty sure it was Hardwicke, and he did a real bang up job of that. I mean, he does a real good job of telling Holmes he's an idiot... And Holmes is forced to agree. xd The whole hallucination seuquence was kinda trippy, though. GOtta wonder what the screenwriters were thinking. "Hmmm... Let's see Brett running in slo-mo through a fog, with strange strobing lights and random stills of some sort of henge. Yeah, that's a good idea."
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Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 7:43 pm
Haha, indeed!
I think that some of the different versions tried to play on Watson's weakness (His leg, from that bloody Jezail bullet). But, they over-exaggerated.
I mean, I just watched 'Dressed to Kill' the other day, when Holmes is outwitted (By a woman. Ha ha.). Watson stays behind to entertain this poor little girl whose music box (Which actually contained a press for making counterfeit money) was stolen (By the woman who outwitted Holmes). I started twitching when the good doctor started talking like a duck to cheer the kid up.
Sad thing is, I'm not kidding.
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Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 11:26 pm
Has anyone seen "The Strange Case of the End of Civilization as We Know It"? It has John Cleese as Holmes' descendant & the Watson was an actor I recall from Dad's Army. And not only was he the doofiest Watson of all...he was BIONIC! Nose & legs, so he could be a tracking hound for his Holmes. mrgreen
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Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 7:59 pm
eek That's not beyond awful at all, is it? Then again, 'Sherlock Holmes in the Twenty-Second Century' was pretty bad also in regards to their Watson. Honestly, a drone that has convinced itself that it's Watson? Sounds psychotic to me...
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Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 9:30 pm
There's a SF novel with a character that is a computer that accidentally acquired sentience & thought it was Mycroft.
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 7:47 pm
Sounds familiar, but I can't place it. What's it called?
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 10:21 pm
I know the title is The Moon is a Harsh Mistress, but I can't remember the author. Heinlein, possibly?
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Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 8:45 pm
Holmes_of_Baker_Street I can't remember if it was Hardwicke or Burke in 'The Devil's Foot', but I'm pretty sure it was Hardwicke, and he did a real bang up job of that. I mean, he does a real good job of telling Holmes he's an idiot... And Holmes is forced to agree. xd The whole hallucination seuquence was kinda trippy, though. GOtta wonder what the screenwriters were thinking. "Hmmm... Let's see Brett running in slo-mo through a fog, with strange strobing lights and random stills of some sort of henge. Yeah, that's a good idea." Sounds like a rave to me! I guess no one ever said Sherlock Holmes couldn't dance... -Holmes over to the side with glowsticks and a three-piece suit-
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Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 9:45 pm
Intellectual break-dance! Now there's a lovely idea. I can actually picture Jeremy Brett at least attempting something similar... Ouch.
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